There was a time where strikers boxers kick boxers would say oh, I don't need to learn jujitsu Because I'll just knock you out and that was just arrogance and ego. Ignorance not just arrogance, but ignorance. Horian Gracie one of the founders of jujitsu said it's like it's a really it's a painful realization When you realize that you spent 20 sometimes 30 years at this Effortful just hard work.