When he was covering the Iraq War, when I first got to the national level, it was the Iraq War. And you remember the way I got in trouble eventually, because I later said on television that we were under pressure to cover it in a way that was consistent with the patriotic fever in the nation. Yeah, it was a different time. Like every time is different, but I think you forget, given the highly inflamed political feelings everyone has right now, they were pretty darn inflamed back in the early 2000s.

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