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Leaning in on the Important (& Potentially Awkward) Conversations Around Women in Leadership at Your Church with Lisa Penberthy

unSeminary Podcast

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The Importance of Open Conversations

Lisa Kogan: "We want to keep leaning in here and finding ways that we could be creating undue barriers" She says she has traveled the world with male colleagues because it's part of what I'm called to do, but gender doesn't limit my calling. In today's day and age is you don't know who's sitting across from the table,. You can have a transgender across the table. And so having a male in a male's table is no different today than having a male and a female.

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