Ben: What's next for me? That's a good question. I'm just busy right now trying to figure out what second book it is. Joe: Ben, thank you so much for writing the book and the continuous dialogue you and I've had over the last couple of months. You taught me a lot about Navy Seal of History because those two are so intertwined in the rise of the seals. Benjamin: Thank you; maybe we'll be doing the podcast together.

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