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The Politics of Hobbyism
John Austin: Politics has become a hobby. And it's like the online takes posting and I realize as a podcaster like I'm really like a little complicit in this. He says we cannot just be a progressive media company of posters. That's just not that's not going to do much. Right. It's going to have some effect right you can persuade people as we're trying to do but unless we like actually go do this in real life right it's going to be a problem which people definitely are forgetting more and more.