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# 67 Scaling Ethereum after the Shanghai Upgrade
The Ledger Podcast
Ethereum 2.0 - What's Next?
Einstein: We are talking about upgrading the chain for a long time, like at the beginning of Ethereum that was already the plan. At this time, there were two main options for solving the scalability challenge. The first one was sharding and it was also one of the big motivation to move to proper stake. There's two options have been worked in parallel since 2018. And what the time told us is that L2 option is probably a better option.
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