i like this, refraim. So we have this great stagnation, but hall actually calls it a great strangulation. The really interesting question is whether we can undo it. I did not realize that many, like green activists, quotand quote, aren't so much pro clean energy as they are anti energy. They don't want us to have greater resources because they don't wants us to havegreater impact on the planet. And i feel like it it gets us stucks, a stuck in technology. Stuck is a civilization. If we can't progress towards these cleanersor of self contained, ever improving things, ina growth is kind of built into our society. and

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