The Law of Second, Entropy, Is Running Down, Right?

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Dawkins is a big fan of my exorcism film and he sends me emails of exorcism stuff because he finds it funny. But he can be very dismissive and very scary to interview. I would probably rather be sat next to, and I hope Richard doesn't be a fan. He could sort of shut him down because some of that symbol stuff is a bit out there. We just want to know what's true. Yeah. All right, Andrew, we're starting to move into Joe Rogan territory here with multiple hours. This has been too interesting, but I do have a hard out here. So great talking to you. Thanks so much.

Shermer and Gold discuss: diversity, equity, and inclusion in the media • social justice movements and their motivations • bias in STEM fields • why people believe weird things • exorcisms • UFOs • faith healers • Derren Brown and how magic works on minds • hypnosis • sex and where to have an affair • Ashley Madison • female/male differences in sexual preferences and choices • non-offending pedophiles in Berlin • the curious case of Jimmy Seville: why didn’t anyone notice his pedophilia?

Andrew Gold is a British journalist whose podcast On the Edge with Andrew Gold investigates belief, cults and extreme ideologies. He speaks five languages, has lived in six countries and has made award-winning documentaries around the world for the BBC and HBO about fringe topics, from exorcism and UFOs to abortion and porn stars, and even more controversial terrain, such as his two years investigating pedophiles. On his podcast he has interviewed Richard Dawkins, Amanda Knox, John McWhorter, Gad Saad, Peter Boghossian, Robbie Williams and that Shermer guy…as well as several psychopaths, murderers, cult defectors and a guy who had to eat his friends after a plane crash. The reason he started his podcast is because the UK TV producers who work with the BBC kept insisting that he no longer be visible on-screen in his films because, he was told, they needed “a minority.”