The Atlassian round, that 400 mill valuation. That was a huge deal in Australia in 2010. VAND sold to light speed for half a billion dollars in New Zealand about four or five years ago. But these are really big deal in the ecosystem. And they're very important for ecosystem development. You get these lighthouse founders that the next generation of founders want to be like. It's just this biological need, right, that some very small proportion of the population want to top the next best person out there.

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