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876: Kelly Richmond Pope | How Fraud Became a Trillion-Dollar Industry
The Jordan Harbinger Show
Kelly Richmond Pope on Lying
Kelly Richmond Pope: Lying is hard to do. If you lie on one thing, you got to tell a whole lot of other lies to make that lie stand. The woman who said it made her feel sick says she can identify with that. "I just thought if I'm a criminal, do I just get desensitized to all this? I don't want that"
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