Nathan Woodard: It makes sense because if you think about it to a lot of these guys, the abortion gave them a second chance. And also they are well fed, well trained, well equipped, well armed. Whereas a lot of Russian conscript get thrown into the meat grinder with very little. They have leaders that don't give a shit about them. This is what they say when you read the report. So from that perspective, I mean, someone who actually looks after you and wants you to survive a war, you'd sort of feel like they're on your team. You know what I mean? Absolutely.