Sally Kohn: We're actually, he defines something he calls secular faith. She says we demonstrate this faith every time that we choose to care about and care for him is a technical term. He thinks that that possibility of loss is actually part of what it means to care; she agrees. The finitude of all of these good things are themselves, said Kohn. And I think once we can start to see it that way, it doesn't, I feel like it's able to tell the truth about the world, right?

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