Homeowner spending per occupied housing has been very volatile over the last 40, 50 years. So much of what we think about the housing price pop that occurred makes it feel like housing's on fire, but housing activity has been slow for like 15 years. To our way of thinking about it, a fair bit of the revenue growth has been more catch up to normal levels. And excluding just recessionary cyclicality, we think that revenue growth has come up to and maybe somewhat above normalized level, but not a lot.

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