The Transition From a Dictatorship to a Tutilitarian Regime

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I think one of the things that people who live in democracies often have trouble and understanding is the differences between different gradations of dictatorship. I should say that te tetin regimes, they were frequent in the twentieth century, and they are pretty easy to describe. The kind of regime that exists in contemporof russia, it's a pure corporate regime. And i guess one of the questions that i am asking myself is the extent to which what we're seeing is a shift from a dictatorship to a tetr utilitarian regime? Is that what we're in the middle of or not?

Yevgenia Albats is a Russian journalist, and editor-in-chief and CEO of the popular Russian independent magazine The New Times. The magazine has now been blocked by government censors for reporting on the war in Ukraine. Until last week, when the station was taken off the air, Albats was also host of a long-running radio show on Ekho Moskvy. The author of The State Within a State: The KGB and its Hold on Russia–Past, Present, and Future, she is a member of the Persuasion board of advisors.

In this week’s conversation, Yevgenia Albats and Yascha Mounk discuss the quickly-evolving nature of the Putin dictatorship, how ordinary Russians view the invasion, and the fate of the free Russian press in the face of a new wave of repression.

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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