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72: Agile Product Management with John Cutler

Agile for Humans with Ryan Ripley and Todd Miller

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The Importance of Being in the Fire

Ryan: I always imagined that I should switch at some point back to being a practitioner in a team where the deadline is my responsibility. John: When I no longer have empathy for them and when I start feeling bitterness or some kind of skepticism, it's time for me to get back into that role that I'm trying to coach. Ryan: My career is kind of a winding because one I don't want to stay in one forever. But as the sort of person on the front lines who says you can do anything, why not change your mind?

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