Exploring the Dual Nature of a Powerful Figure

Twenty years ago John Hancock had dinner with his mother, Gina Rinehart. He says it’s the last positive interaction he had with her. In an in-depth interview, he explains how his relationship with his mother fell apart and discusses a high-stakes legal case that could threaten the foundations of her empire. Listen and subscribe to the Gina Podcast at theguardian.com/gina