I'm Bald and Toothless, but Boy Are They Fighting a Rising Tide?

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i'm beginning to think that the hold of this particular ideology on academia is permanent. I'm not sure anything can be done about it, because these people are utterly impregnable. But i have more hope for local school boards than, for example, the typical a history of music department at a university. So there in terms of what's going on, this is a prediction that i'll make, that i am happy to eat in ten years when we replay this. And, you know, i'm bald and toothless.

John McWhorter is an author, a member of the Persuasion Board of Advisors, a Columbia University linguist, and a columnist for The New York Times. His latest book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America, argues that we must understand wokeness, quite literally, as a religion.

In this week’s conversation, John McWhorter and Yascha Mounk discuss the nature of today’s social progressivism, whether it constitutes a religion, and how we can actually help to reduce racial disparities in the United States.

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