Mental health in general is like talking about this spectrum of it versus just like any one thing so i think part of what gave mental health this like bad reputation was thinking about the dark depressive thoughts. There are going to be days for whatever reason even if you do everything right that you don't feel as good as you felt the day before but that's still you and those feelings are still you. Ron says he tries to talk to a lot of amazing other founders of brands or stuff just just to learn really.

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