Bruce Springsteen is a kind of nationalist, isn't he? And you're a cosmopolitan. First Springsteen as Donald Trump, Steve Bannon rolled into one. I would say that as an artist who's exploring his own issues and is relentlessly honest with the issues that really troubled him for 40, 45 years, he's a pretty honest guy. He says, I do sing truly to what I'm feeling. And he's very transparent. When you see him on stage, you can't believe you're seeing the same human being.

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