I've always tried to keep the actual pod casting at the extremely low cost, just ecause you don't necessarily make that much on a single interview. And so i don't know, i care about the way it looks, but i'm all so just not really that pressed about making it look incredible. We're actually building like, cool sets and backgrounds and kind of rethinking how we're going to approach the cameras and everything like that. So we're doing a little bit more of it now. But i also just don't really think that's our primary value. I feel like the's people out there that i see are kind of making a name for themselves through having really high

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