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20 years after the invasion of Iraq

Pod Save the World

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What I've Learned From the War on Terrorism

"This wasn't a small thing. This was really connected to my entire view of America's role in the world," he says. "I felt like unless I really thought through why I was wrong, I wasn't gonna be able to figure out what I thought about anything else" He adds: "It's not fun to dwell on like, on having screwed up."

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