A lot of them are really close friends of mine they're people that need to make a living and they're jungle people who you know the rainforest is a very challenging environment. A lot of these guys grew up fishing they grew up in the jungle they know how to do it so for them it's a way to like they also love it and then of course out in the wild every now and then something will happen you'll see somebody's boat flipped over and you go you go help them out, which creates a certain type of kinship.

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