iim pretty blunt and candid, if you've listened to a thousand episodes here, shocking, breaking news, jason is candid. I think people were thinking bill would be able to do something really creative or interesting instead of something boring like this. A start up in the transportation space is back on the programme. And i might have been the third or fourth investor in that company,. But today we have the c e o, dara kasrashahi, on the programme. We need to cut all expenses to zero as quickly as possible and survive the pandemic - then after the pandemic, let's see if we thrive.