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252. John Mueller on Putin’s War: Russia, Ukraine, and NATO

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Poden's 'Buff Zone'

Ukraine has always been a kind of buffer zone for nado as a threat. Poden would like to have that buff zone by not having krane become part of nato. He reached out to the west, and the west didn't even respond,. That's not even on the taperight. They didn't even come back and say, what? We can't do. Cant keep him out of nato forever. But abot 20, 25 years, which would be codifying reality.

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