Do You Use Lazarus Group as a Convenient Shorthand?

Lazarus group is a convenient shorthand because it's quite a sexy name. What Barney has hinted at there really is the fact that there was a multitude of groups within the North Korean government doing different hacks. I heard you talk about North Korea being sort of slept on as a cyber threat. Can you explain that? It's human nature to do something that you're good at, but North Korea is hard.