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In part two of our Drowned in Sound podcast series on the Spotify exodus, Sean Adams sits down with Alexa Speed (founder of Cut Off The Spigot), and artist Kadhja Bonet alongside returning guest Laura Burhenn (The Mynabirds) to unpack the growing backlash against Spotify and other streaming giants.

From Spotify’s billion-dollar AI investments and Daniel Ek’s controversial war drone ventures to the ethics of billionaire ownership and music’s place in post-capitalist culture, Sean and this week’s guests dive into the details and ask what happens when artists say enough is enough.

We hear why Kadhja pulled her music from Spotify, how Alexa interrogates corporate influence behind streaming platforms, and what the alternatives are (including Bandcamp, Qobuz and more). We also imagine a future where creativity and community outweigh convenience, and where art is valued for its inherent social good, not algorithmic profitability. Far-fetched? Let’s find out.

00:00 – Introduction: The Spotify Exodus

03:15 – Why Artists Are Leaving Streaming Platforms

08:45 – Daniel Ek’s Investments in AI and Defence Tech

13:20 – The Ethics of Streaming: Profit vs Planet

18:05 – Billionaires, Protest, and Power

22:40 – Kadhja Bonet: Why I Pulled My Music from Spotify

27:55 – Laura Burhenn on Journalism, Accountability & Platforms

34:10 – Alternatives: Bandcamp, Qobuz, and Ethical Listening

40:00 – The Role of Joy and Dance in Resistance

46:45 – Building a Post-Capitalist Music Culture

52:30 – What Comes After Spotify?

57:00 – Closing Reflections & Future Visions

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• Cut Off The Spigot
• Kadhja Bonet on Bandcamp
• Kadhja Bonet on Instagram
• The Mynabirds
• Laura Burhenn on Instagram
• Flashes (Bluesky app)
• Ghost: The Social Web
• The Verge on Ghost 6 and the Social Web