I think it's super useful, especially if you're trying to to monetize via direct products or something like that at some point. The closeness can be can be so valuable. I had friends in high school that started a production agency and this is just they reached out there like, hey, we could do this for you. So we're their only client like pod letter and the pour over. There's a close relationship there. But because it's been working well, we're like,Hey, we should again, no more work for me if you guys find other newsletters. And so open open for business and an interest if there are other newsletter operators that want to to use pod

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