Understanding Numbness vs. Apathy

Functional freeze is not laziness. It is a learned survival strategy that lets you function on the outside while feeling numb or shut down on the inside. In this episode of Trauma Rewired, Elisabeth Kristof and Jennifer Wallace unpack freeze, tonic immobility, and flop, and show how functional freeze can look like “getting by” while feeling numb inside.

They map the differences between freeze and burnout, explain why interoception goes offline, and share gentle, minimum-effective-dose practices to thaw safely and rebuild capacity.. 

You will learn how chronic stress blunts interoception, why your voice disappears in hard conversations, how shame loops keep the pattern in place, and why high performers often miss freeze because it hides behind perfectionism and people pleasing.

Topics Discussed in This Episode:

• The freeze spectrum, acute freeze, tonic immobility, flop

• Functional freeze vs burnout

• Interoception and emotional numbness

• Relationship patterns, shutdown, flat affect, rupture and repair

• Language masking, shame loops, lost voice

• High performers, people pleasing, perfectionism, hidden freeze

• Whole system view, not only the vagus nerve

• Minimum effective dose, breath, voice, tiny mobilizations

• Resourcing and capacity building before big emotional work

• From dissociation to embodiment and agency

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