When we're meditating, you instruct the listeners to really just not go by their concepts, but go by what they're actually feeling and experiencing. That's how it actually and what you seem to be pressing throughout the sessions is this idea of really just focusing on the direct experience rather than the normal thing that we take to be the body. And I'm wondering why, there does seem something deeply true about it, but why are you coming at it that way in a way that some other guided meditations aren't? Yeah, well, this is something that Joseph certainly does in general and this is just straight, but pasta in a practice, which is the source of mindfulness as most people