i think he would make a great interview, because i think for him, like, it was a, you know, in a way, like everything that we're talking about am in this conversation. Instead of thinking about in an abstract way, he's like, being helpful and alsono experiencing life the way other people are living it. And then we actually flew down to porto rico after the hurricane and did some community service that that. We actually were cooking in a kitchen one day, and they offered for us to go deliver out the meals. Was not what we were supposed to do. And went into neighborhoodsthe all the sell telers were down. It was the

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