The Ted Radio Hour From NPR

This episode was produced by katy montalion, fiona geren, matthew clutier and christina calla. Our production staff at npr also includes jeff rogers, rachel falkner, de bamoticham, james dela huse, j c howard and janet jong lee. To learn more about the people who were on this episode, go to ted dot npr dot org. And if you have been enjoying the show, we'd be so grateful if you left a review on apple pod casts.