"I definitely hate that I used to teach from that hustle mentality," he says. "The only way we learn is by we do the thing and then if it works great, and if it doesn't, then we're like, okay, like I need to adjust course." He admires people who share their personal evolution in real time instead of just sharing what they've done so far. 'It means a lot to me when those I look up to will share the kind of the behind the scenes'

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