There's no such thing as trusted suppliers. They're trusted, but the bad guys can hack into that. So we have to make sure that no matter who the supplier is, their objective and transparent basis for knowing whether those products and services are protected. And I think the leaders of cybersecurity in the United States are moving in the right direction. But we've got to really ramp up those efforts to promote assurance, transparency, and accountability.

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