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We Are the Most Sustainable X, Right?
"There actually is no sustainable item that you can make in this industry. It's not 100% sustainable." "I'm always thinking about how I can hit several targets with a single stone," he says. "People just get really, like, lazy and they look at a roadblock as a definitive thing" 'If there's a natural alignment and it's not forced, boom, you just made introductions with people'