I've been in this arena for decades, and i see so many cases under the status quo, where foundations with huge staffs say, give academics money to write books. I actually think our record so far is much better than the average. This'll take us to begin with some of the ideas in the book. When you interview people, which i know you do for this, you don't just they submit the one page, but then you talk to them. So what does that involve like? During the pandemic, that usually wasn't possible. And even without a pandemic, often they're just far away. The typical zoom kall would be about 30 minutes. That's

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