I Love Grade Talks Part 2

Drew: It's a shame when certain climbs get so controversial for the grade that people just talk about that and not the climb anymore. He says grades shouldn't matter at all but there has to be a middle ground between like I'm grade chasing as soon as I do a 511 C or I'll immediately do an 8a plus rope climb because it's harder than this one. Come back next week to hear the second part of our chat with Drew where we talk a lot more about climbing related stuff and training stuff but we also go off topic and talk about some non-climbing related stuff as well cheers for listening.