The Challenges of Pastors in an Uncertain World

glan: Can you tell us the story about handa, kind of how this project came into being and what it's trying to do. And i wante to start a conversation to day, glan, around some work that you have been doing with the barna group recentlythat's really helping to create some clarity. So let's just start by talking about the big cultural shift that coved, either accelerated or revealed. What do you see going on in our culture that maybe the church is a little bit late? Metimes sot to talk about that? Glan: The controlling metaphor of this shift, surge and aftermath is the sunami that happened in december of two