How Old Are You Now?

"It's taken a long time to get a little more secure. It's one of those things where for leaders listening, you know, even on wardrobe, i will check in with people and say, you don't want to be that guy who's pulling stuff out of your closet," she says. "If you're hanging out with 80 year olds, you'll always be the young leader,. But, like, the kids don't think you're young anyr."