"I'm definitely somewhat spiritual in a sense that I, you know, I my sort of feeling on all of that is like, I am so I have no idea. If there's an afterlife, I've no idea what's beyond what my mind can comprehend or see or touch." "When you take psychedelics, it stops doing that. And guess what? You're not really useful," he says about his experience with the drugs. 'If this texture becomes as interesting as it actually is without getting too much into what reality is,' she adds. "'You could stare at it for hours, butlike you're not eating tomorrow' ... All things that made us as a species are