Conversations with Podcasters: 'The 13th Step,' 'Shattering the System', and 'Land Rover Defender 110'

Mike gives his list of the best podcasts of the past calendar year. He also talks with Sonari Glinton, host of the Shattering the System podcast, which tells the story of a politically connected predator who operated out of West Hollywood, and Lauren Chooljian, host of the The 13th Step, which tells the story of a politically connected predator who operated out of New Hampshire. 

Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara 

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