Pastor Chance Ub - Is There Leadership in the Church?

Gretel: Let's make up a an easy to imagine scenario. Pastor chance ub says, i've got this guy, and he's, he etends to get oferm work and crash in front of the t v. She asks what kind of leadership are you expecting from this manor do you have a cooki cutter approach to what you think you want out of him? Gretel: He's got to grow in what it is to engage well and tolead well. We don't we are often given roles that we have to grow into.