Zaki: I was helping a little bit on the Stargate side, but not yeah, it wasn't really my main focus. What happened was you probably heard about what we like to call GORE 2020, which is the Cosmos ecosystems. A lot of people sort of left the Tendermint company and started working on other,. like creating new companies to contribute back to Cosmos. And so that's sort of how Osmosis came about where we sort of merged with a company called Chinapsis. They built the Kepler wallet, which is like the most popular wallet of the Cosmos ecosystem.

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