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CNLP 561 | Andy Wood and Stacie Wood on Following Rick Warren, The Detailed Breakdown on How the Saddleback Succession Happened, How to Navigate the Grief and Promise of Transition, and Being Kicked out of the SBC

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

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How to Be a Better Leader

"I never want to speak negatively about Rick in public or private," she says. "If there's ever a concern, I just pick up the phone." She doesn't take any more of Rick's time than he wants to give her. Rich and Kate have been married for six years; they are expecting their first child this year.

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