What's Going On?

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Janie alluded to the fact that he'd sexually molested her all those years before, a fact janie had disclosed to nicol more than once in a direct conversation in two thousand seven and then in that facebook post five years later. Not only were they not shunning matthew, they hadn't even really challenged him about what he'd done. What was going on? I had this idea to ask them, ask all of them, and i thought, well, maybe their answers will mean more. You know, we'll have implications for more than just my story. Maybe other peoplewill want to hear this. So, em i got a really dinky, stony taper

Several years after Janey was sexually assaulted by her former boyfriend, Mathew, she told some of her closest friends, and her mother, what Mathew had done. Janey was so troubled by her loved ones’ responses that she went back to them years later to record conversations about it all. In this episode: Janey’s story, and philosopher Kate Manne, who coined the term “himpathy” in her 2017 book, “Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny.” With co-hosts John Biewen and Celeste Headlee. Part of our summer mini-season of rebroadcasts.

To hear more of Janey Williams’ story and the conversations she had with friends, check out her podcast, "This Happened", available on most podcast apps and at thishappenedpodcast.com.