Today, we’re bringing you a special highlights episode! It’s a roundup of some of the most interesting conversations we had in 2025. They include:

Vicky Bond (Madre Brava) on what it's really like to lead in animal advocacy
Lewis Bollard (Coefficient Giving) on the strategies that win and traps to avoid
Dawn Neo (Global Food Partners) on the 4+ billion hens in cages in Asia and how we can help them
David Cole (author of Engines of Liberty) on what we can learn from the marriage equality and gun rights movements
Carley Betts (Open Wing Alliance), 50th episode special: 5 leaders on key challenges and opportunities
David Coman-Hidy (The Navigation Fund), 50th episode special: 5 leaders on key challenges and opportunities
Karolina Sarek (EA Animal Welfare Fund), 50th episode special: 5 leaders on key challenges and opportunities
Haven King-Nobles (Fish Welfare Initiative) on why high agency is critical for entrepreneurship
Penny Tehlilah (Animal Activism Collective) on uniting "welfarists" and "abolitionists" through pressure campaigns
David Kay (now at Kraft Heinz) on the emerging cultivated meat industry

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Cold Open
(00:01:55) Lewis Bollard on what advocates commonly get wrong.
(00:05:34) Vicky Bond on overcoming self-limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome
(00:09:07) Haven King Nobles on how to help new projects succeed and supporting new founders
(00:15:48) Penimah Tehilah on how pressure campaigns can unite the movement.
(00:29:37) David Kay on the importance of centering animals in our advocacy.
(00:33:34) Dawn Neo on changing informal markets and production in low income countries
(00:36:00) David Cole on the importance of incrementalism in past social movements
(00:52:25) Carley Betts on moving past good cop and bad cop binaries in campaigning
(00:57:17) David Coman-Hidy on the importance of political advocacy
(01:01:19) Karolina Sarek on progress for shrimps

For those who miss Amy as a co-host, you’ll be very happy to know that a bunch of these snippets include her too.

Hope you enjoy the episode!

With thanks to Tom Felbar (Ambedo Media) for amazing video and audio editing!

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