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Do You Think It's Possible to Have a Lot of Nonpartisan Experts in Government?
"I just, you know, kind of love working in a, in an environment with all kinds of different people and people don't agree with you," he says. "You need people to take you on and say, absolutely, that's crap." He would encourage his colleagues to tell him when they thought it was wrong. 'It's very hard to still stay above the fray when you've got someone who has decided to make political choices'