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The Next 20 Years Look Like for the African American Church
If you can get the same thing out of church from a Tony Robbins book, it becomes kind of hard to justify continuing to go to your church. And so you see the most enthusiasm actually for the churches that have the most supernaturalism. That actually believe that there's stuff behind the curtain and we can access it. The hunger, I don't want to live in a disenchanted world. It's really just about arguing about theology. But that's still the hunger.