Politics might be something that we shy away from because it’s so divisive—particularly in the current climate. But the gospel shapes us in the way we relate to our neighbours, and it gives us a fundamental lens to use in thinking about how we relate to one another and how we engage in political discourse. In this episode of the CCL podcast, Peter Orr speaks to Michael Jensen about his new book, “Subjects and Citizens”, which aims to helps Christians think about politics in light of the gospel. For an edited transcript and show notes, visit https://ccl.moore.edu.au/resources/podcast-episode-120/