The Value Is Between the Stove and the Oaths

Mike Hill joins for me for a multi-episode exploration of the masterful book “Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals” written by best-selling author Robert Pirsig. This book may be one of the most undervalued ever written, as it proposes an alternative interpretation of reality that Pirsig calls “The Metaphysics of Quality” (MOQ). According to MOQ, reality is not made up of substance, but rather it is composed of distinct patterns of value. In a Copernican-like revolution of perspective, MOQ sheds new light on age-old debates such as moral relativism, the nature of subject-object duality, good vs. evil, science vs. religion, the importance of freedom, and the primacy of action.

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Transcript:

OUTLINE
00:00:00 “What is Money?” Intro
00:00:08 The Metaphysical Lens of Subject-Object Duality
00:02:08 Quality: The Pre-Intellectual Cutting Edge of Reality
00:04:30 Western Rationalism and Eastern Mysticism
00:07:36 “The Master and His Emissary”
00:08:57 Totalitarianism: Left Hemispheric Dominance Writ Large
00:10:20 Systemic Change Requires A New Rationality
00:12:57 Dynamic Quality and the Four Levels of Static Quality
00:16:56 The Co-Determination of Agent and Arena Identities
00:19:12 The Etymology of “God”
00:20:17 Subject-Object Duality as Lower Resolution Static Quality
00:24:13 Dynamic Quality: Awareness, The Flow State, and Observation
00:27:09 Iconoclasm and The Overton Window
00:29:26 The Emergence of Static Patterns of Value
00:33:17 Purposeful Action vs. Reflexive Behavior
00:36:28 The Phase Transitions through Four Levels of Static Quality
00:40:09 The Teleological Goal of Evolution?
00:41:54 NYDIG
00:43:03 The Dynamic Quality Perspective on Good vs. Evil
00:47:34 Pain: “The Inarguable Basis of Being” and “Information”
00:51:07 Transjectivity: The Transcendence of Subject-Object Duality
00:57:21 Quality, Value, Excellence, and Values: All Transjective Terms
01:02:45 “All Language is a Lie”: The Importance of Useful Fictions
01:05:01 Fractal Truth, Archetypal Mythologies, and Data Compression
01:10:07 “The Laws of Nature are Moral Laws”

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