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How Do I Create Spaces of Belonging?

All Out in the Open

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Is There a Wrung on the Ladder?

i was thinking of, like, are we looking towards heaven, or are we looking down at the other people who are lower on the ladder than us? Ecause that's the judgment, right? Ye? Then it puts you in a place of like, oh, look, i'm higher than you. And so for so many people, and this is what's so interesting, among these women i interviewed, they're getting very different answers,. which makes sense, because they're different people. They have different circumstances. It also shifts our focus from looking upward to looking outward, um, and. I think that that is the only way we can, can, not only progress along the

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